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UKClimbing Forum — Jim Perrin and Jac’s sisters, March 2015

We were intrigued when a year ago in March our visitor stats surged into the thousands. Later we were told that this had coincided with the Llanberis Mountain Film Festival, (Llamff), and that UKClimbing had two threads online — the 5th. and the 8th. of March — where our site had been discussed at some length.

On the first thread ‘Goucho’ asked ‘if a skeleton had fallen out of Jim Perrin’s closet’ and Dave Garnett responded with, helpfully, a link to our site. The second was started by ‘Minneconjou Sioux’ who also posted a link.

The threads are: Classic routes and the style they were done in. 05/03/2015, and Does Don Whillans deserve a new biography?  08/03/2015.

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Gordon Stainforth protested: ‘This [we presume he means by ‘this’ the contents of our posts] was a most unseemly airing of dirty linen in public, and the last thing any right-minded person should be doing [that is, those who are commenting on the thread] is re-airing someone else’s private dirty linen.’ We would like to point out that it is all too easy to trivialise the content of our site in that way and the play on words — ‘re-airing’ — whilst neat, is to criticise others besides ourselves for having the temerity to discuss it at all. This is censorship (though we do accept that it is at the discretion of the founder of the thread) and the attitude, this attempted closing down of comment, is one of the ways in which Jim Perrin seems always to have been protected by some of his peers.

We wonder: if Gordon Stainforth, or other of Jim Perrin’s supporters, had a family member or close friend who had suffered as so many have through their connection with him, would they still wish to shield him? We are not alone in our relating of Jim Perrin’s behaviour over the years; it is not only we, Jac’s sisters, who know the truth of his actions. There is, it is clear, a conspiracy of silence where Jim Perrin is concerned. We have been told he has decreed (aware of how the details in our posts are damaging him) that should anyone read them their loyalty to him would be questioned: he is always the bully; although sometimes so subtle in his bullying…

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We can assure any other doubters (and ‘Goucho’ seemed to think that ‘like 99.9% of people I do not know whether it [our site] is factual or not’!) that all our claims concerning Jim Perrin’s conduct can be verified. All the details we have given are undisputed by ‘right-minded people’ — although many may choose not to face an ‘inconvenient truth’. And, for the record, our lawyer says that ‘truth is an absolute defence.’

We contend that it is because people have not spoken out over the years that Jim Perrin has been able ‘to get away’ with so much, and we think it very shaming. In our opinion, if he had been challenged, instead of being protected by his cronies, the harm he has undoubtedly caused might have been curtailed. His behaviour has instead been tacitly accepted by those who protect him, and many of his transgressions have been ‘hidden in plain sight.’

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Some of the comments posted were the result, possibly, of speed-reading or crossed wires and reading the thread of the 8th. of March one can see how some content was mis-ascribed or mistakenly cross-referenced: ‘Chinese whispers’?

Phil West, for example, conflated the writing of Jim Curran and ourselves. In fact we were pleased to be able to present to a wider audience, in Jim Curran’s own words, the evidence of Jim Perrin’s vindictive malevolence and down-right dishonesty; and how Jim Curran had triumphed over him. So many other mealy-mouthed and risk-averse people have, it might be said, aided and abetted him by their silence. ‘Risk-averse’? Because, we believe, Jim Perrin has cultivated a (well-deserved) reputation for being disputatious, belligerent and litigious. The Lake District Climbing Club affair some years ago was a notorious case of the latter, and one in which his true colours were revealed.

Jim Curran’s case is by now well documented and right was entirely on his side: see Jim Curran v Jim Perrin. Jim Perrin had behaved appallingly and it was a well-deserved victory for Jim Curran, albeit that the strain he endured was dreadful. A lesser man would perhaps have allowed Jim Perrin to ‘win’ by default — the risk was great as Jim Perrin had, as we have so often said, Friends in High Places. But the evidence against him was conclusive and his shame complete…  Jim very kindly gave us permission to post the relevant chapter from his remarkable biography Here, There and Everywhere. The extraordinary thing is that Jim Perrin should really have believed that he would win; by deceit, bravado and force of will, and control over his publishers. We think he thinks he is omnipotent…

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We created jacssisters to ‘put the record straight’ for our sister, Jac, when we discovered the gross misrepresentation of which Jim Perrin had been guilty; and the blatant lies which he told when he wrote his account of his short time with her, of her illness and her tragically early death. This is all explained quite clearly in our earlier posts:  Jim Perrin is a Liar, Jim  Perrin’s qualified grief and Jim Perrin’s terms of bereavement. Now, so many people have contacted us and come forward with stories of their own disturbing experiences with Jim Perrin — telling of violence, financial fraud and loss of self-esteem and safety issues — that the site has expanded; and surely this is all to the good if his behavioural patterns can be made more widely known. For far too many years Jim Perrin has succeeded by compartmentalising his victims. Although, clearly, from reading the UKC Forum threads, some — Perrin-partisans — may think our site an inconvenience, denigrating it with the old cliché about washing dirty linen in public…

Alan James closed down the 8th. of March thread, on the same day. He said: ‘I am going to stop replies to this post. It is way beyond the scope of what we can cope with on this forum and is already giving us a lot of problems. [Our italics] Please don’t start any new threads on this topic.’ We can quite see how the trend of the comments might have dismayed him — they had strayed somewhat from the climbing questions, yet it was an interesting editorial decision. One wonders where the thread might have led if left to its own momentum. Were there perhaps complaints from Jim Perrin? Was there fear of litigation? At least, for the time being, it remains online, as does the other, but that may change in the future. We have print-outs if needed…

Jac’s sisters.

Jim Perrin’s ‘Terms of Bereavement’

On page 29 of West Jim Perrin gave details of a night he purported to have spent in the hospital whilst Jac was a patient there. (She had been admitted in the late Wednesday afternoon until mid-Wednesday of the next week as she was desperately ill in the final stage of her terminal cancer.) Intimate ‘details’ we could hardly believe. He told how ‘she was undisturbed after eight o’clock… Nobody arrived to tell me to leave. I crept quietly away at dawn before the routine of the hospital began.’

Today, 07/12/2015, we have spoken with a representative of the hospital concerned and asked them whether a patient in their care, so ill as our sister was, might possibly have been left, as Jim Perrin claimed, ‘undisturbed’ (that is — un-checked!) after 8pm. with no nurse even to look in on her to see if she was sleeping or if she might need some drug to alleviate pain. Could it be? Continue reading

Jim Perrin’s qualified grief

At first, after reading the lies in West, we reviewed it on several Amazon threads — although they were all later deleted, we supposed at the request of Jim Perrin! We have said in several other posts: ‘Who but HE would care, or would be sufficiently interested, or would have the motive?’ — this surely must be so? — and to this day any attempt to post as ‘jacssisters’ is automatically blocked. Subsequently we decided to show those reviews on our own site in order to gain further coverage, and by writing our posts we have sought to expose the many lies that this deceitful man has written about our sister. Continue reading